Pain isn’t a glitch in the human experience, it’s part of the design. In Episode 62, Carlos sits down again with Dan Olschwang for a slow, deep conversation on why pain exists, what it’s for, and how it can become fuel for real inner transformation.

Dan unpacks the link between pain, fear, and rigidity, and why the “toughest” people are often carrying the most fear. They explore what it means to “go inward,” how your inner state shapes what you see in the world, and why words can’t fully capture what’s real - only point to it.

Then the conversation turns to manifestation, consciousness, and the idea that we’re not passive observers of reality, we’re participants. Finally, Dan offers a grounded warning about AI: knowledge is becoming a commodity, and the new currency will be creativity. The closing message is simple: don’t be afraid to face what’s inside, there’s a life beyond your imagination on the other side.